mostly written 17/11/07, mostly ....
this is the code of "ethics" that muslims want to install all over the world.. thank you for losing at the Battle of Tours, thank you for losing the first World War, thank you Spanish and other inquisitions, without these crappy christian events, it is very likely that islame's "morals" would be even more widespread... i mean, i hated christianity for spreading itself into the cultures where it wasn't wanted, all over the world (North and South America, Africa, Australia), but essentially christians have a tolerant modus operandi - but if islam had been spread so fervently i think the world would be a lot less fun to live in ..... a lot less... imagine if australia was predominantly muslim? what fun would *that* be?
in this story from Saudi Arabia we see how the victims of crimes are punished in one of the strictest islamic states - essentially Saudi Arabia holds to a strict form of islame called "Wahhabism" .. look it up, Al-Qaeda base their values on this SAME strict adherence to islame... why is that? Bin Laden is a family name in Saudi Arabia, not that it really matters, but could that be why?
hmm... and we're allies with the Saudi's??
ahemmm ... why ?? ... oh that's right ... OIL!
again i don't understand why we associate so closely with cultures that have values and attitudes that we have extreme problems with *regardless* of what resources they have to offer... i would love to be alive in 200 years time when the oil is gone... death and disease and war will overcome those countries as the oil runs out... so, yeah, a more extreme version of what is happening now is in store for the middle east eventually, I've no doubt that they will *beg* the "West" to bail them out ...
and they will get what they deserve if they continue with this attitude of theirs:
a woman was raped by a gang of seven men.. yet when her lawyer appealed the lenient sentence the rapists had been given - the rapists had their sentences increased but the woman also had **her** sentence doubled for speaking to the media ... excuse me? that is a suppression of basic human rights - religion of peace and understanding my arse...
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Saudi court ups punishment for gang-rape victim
November 17, 2007 -- Updated 1619 GMT (0019 HKT)
* Story Highlights
* Woman, 19, gets six months prison, 200 lashes for meeting with unrelated man
* Group of seven raped her and the man, from whom she was retrieving photos
* After lawyer protests light sentences, rapists' sentences increased
* Victim's punishment doubled for talking to the media
(CNN) -- A court in Saudi Arabia increased the punishment for a gang-rape victim after her lawyer won an appeal of the sentence for the rapists, the lawyer told CNN.
The 19-year-old victim was sentenced last year to 90 lashes for meeting with an unrelated male, a former friend from whom she was retrieving photographs. The seven rapists, who abducted the pair and raped both, received sentences ranging from 10 months to five years in prison.
The victim's attorney, Abdulrahman al-Lahim, contested the rapists' sentence, contending there is a fatwa, or edict under Islamic law, that considers such crimes Hiraba (sinful violent crime) and the punishment should be death.
"After a year, the preliminary court changed the punishment and made it two to nine years for the defendants," al-Lahim said of the new decision handed down Wednesday. "However, we were shocked that they also changed the victim's sentence to be six months in prison and 200 lashes."
The judges more than doubled the punishment for the victim because of "her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media," according to a source quoted by Arab News, an English-language Middle Eastern daily newspaper.
Judge Saad al-Muhanna from the Qatif General Court also barred al-Lahim from defending his client and revoked his law license, al-Lahim said. The attorney has been ordered to attend a disciplinary hearing at the Ministry of Justice next month.
Al-Lahim said he is appealing the decision to bar him from representing the victim and has a meeting with Justice Minister Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Ibrahim Al Al-Sheikh on Monday.
"Currently she doesn't have a lawyer, and I feel they're doing this to isolate her and deprive her from her basic rights," al-Lahim said. "We will not accept this judgment and I'll do my best to continue representing her because justice needs to take place."
Al-Lahim said he wanted the Justice Ministry to take "a very clear standing" on the case, saying the decision is "judicial mutiny against reform that King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz started and against Saudi women who are being victimized because of such decisions."
Women are subject to numerous restrictions in Saudi Arabia, including a strict dress code, a prohibition against driving and the need for a man's permission to travel or have surgery. Women are also not allowed to testify in court unless it is about a private matter that was not observed by a man, and they are not allowed to vote.
The Saudi government recently has taken some steps toward bettering the situation of women in the kingdom, including the establishment earlier this year of special courts to handle domestic abuse cases, adoption of a new labor law that addresses working women's rights, and creation of a human rights commission.
CNN was unable to reach government officials for comment.
CNN's Saad Abedine and Mohammed Jamjoom contributed to this report.
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