i saw a funny quote tonight in a bulletin somewhere...
"I wish Jesus would hurry up and come back... and take away all the Christians!"
or something like that.... here's another quote... can't remember who said it ...
To say categorically, "There is no god," is to make an absolute statement. For the statement to be true, I must know for certain that there is no god in the entire universe. No human being has all knowledge. Therefore, none of us is able to truthfully make this assertion.
let's try this another way shall we?
To say categorically, "There is a god," is to make an absolute statement. For the statement to be true, I must know for certain that there is a god in the universe. No human being has all knowledge. Therefore, none of us is able to truthfully make this assertion.
but which is true?
none of them are true.. the logic is flawed ... god can't be proven even if it *did* exist... god revealing itself as proof for the masses defies the very meaning of a god, at least for the christian invisible man in the sky god because with proof, there would be no faith!...
and besides, god would only reveal itself to those who were worthy anyway...
but if we forget, for a moment, about the fact that a god wouldn't reveal itself anyway to the unworthy, and that god is actually in this universe and that it is actually visible and not out of phase in a different dimension or something tricky like that, we would only ever be able to *prove* its existence, right?
Imagine that, as impossible as it is, that i was actually able to go everywhere in the universe and that I did end up looking every where for god, under every rock and behind every nebula for god and didn't find it anywhere..
does that prove that he doesn't exist?
no it does not..
because god could have been about 1000kms behind me the whole time or he could have been in one spot when i was some where else - the point is - we just missed each other, so i'd be none the wiser
but by going everywhere in the universe would that prove that god *does* exist??
if we ran into each other it would!!
eg. "oh look! It's god!! see! i found him!! woot woot"
so ... there is only one way you could possibly disprove conclusively that god did NOT exist in this universe.. and that would be for you to be everywhere in the universe simultaneously at the same time..
but since you would have to practically *be* a god to do that, it does NOT seem to be very likely that we'll ever be able to DISPROVE the existence of god even if it was supposedly a part of this "realm" that we live in.
so if you went on a journey about the universe to prove whether god was there or not - you might get lucky and run into him before you die - but you could search everywhere in the universe for ALL ETERNITY and still not have your answer if you couldn't find him..
we can never disprove the existence of god, even if we could be everywhere at once, because god could very well choose to hide itself from us, or it could very well be that god "lives" in a different dimension, point being is that even if humans reached the ultimate pinnacle of knowledge and we humans actually did know about everything in the universe, god is still more capable of that and therefore god could still exist, and we would never be the wiser.