Tuesday, 20 July 2010

Do Unto others (christianity flaws #0)

at a guess, it would seem that most christians have their religion correct, at the very least, they have it mostly correct enough to not bring attention to themselves that others notice that they don't actually have it "correct"!

but the most of them, are not as loud as the least of them, not by a long shot.

Any true christian would not have a problem with anything I could say about their religious stories, if they did have a problem then they lack the very faith that they are bragging they have!

And the easiest way to put a rabid blabberingly braggingly annoying christian in their place?

Remind them of Jesus' *highest* commandment!

That commandment being "Do unto others" (Bible quotes below)

now i don't count the "love thy god" 1st commandment, as being a commandment, as there is no practical benefit to it for the non-believer, and from what i understand, you "love god" by following the "Do unto others" commandment anyway... Two birds, one stone, so you *only* need to follow the 2nd of Jesus' commandments to be a good christian, as you follow the 1st commandment by following the 2nd.

But the "do unto others" teaching, isn't an exclusively Jesus thing, it's in the old testament of the bible, in Leviticus of all places.

Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.

In fact, forget the bible and any other religion that has touted the golden rule of "do unto others" because this very simple concept is probably the very basis of human civilisation!!!

We were able to evolve a sense of being able to trust someone as humans made their way forward to this point in history that we are at now because we shared stuff, we co-operated, we helped each other where we could, we taught each-other concepts far beyond simple everyday tasks.

This trust evolved not from things we *said* - but from things we *did* - we showed that we could trust other people, and in return, they were able to trust us, we did unto others as we would have them do unto us!

Civilisation could not have developed if we were not able to trust each other.

For all the wars and other carry-on throughout the millennia, we were able to make it through all of that because some of us banded together and we co-operated!!

So, in terms of christianity, if you see someone purporting to be a "christian", ask them, is their behaviour indicative of something that Jesus taught?

is their behaviour in the spirit of their very own Lord and Saviour's HIGHEST commandment, that being, that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us?

is the behaviour they show toward you, the same behaviour that they *want* you to show toward them?

ask them the above questions... ask them if this is how Jesus wanted them to behave...

And when they retort back at you with ten commandments this, Leviticus abomination that, or some "Saint" Paul thing or they start quoting revelations, you can say to them, "Excuse me, but no, you are wrong... Jesus' HIGHEST commandment was "do unto others", NOTHING out ranks it.. NOTHING at all, if you can't follow that commandment, then you are simply NOT a christian..."

Matthew 22:36-40 (36) Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law? (37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. (38) This is the first and great commandment. (39) And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. (40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Mark 12:29-31 (29) And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: (30) And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment. (31) And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Luke 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

John 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

so *Each* of the gospels have this, so does James

James 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

and so does "Saint" Paul

Romans 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if [there be] any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

John even insists on going on about it a bit more too

1 John 2:7-11 (7) Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. (8) Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. (9) He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. (10) He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. (11) But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

1 John 3:23-24 (23) And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. (24) And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

1 John 4:20-21 (20) If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? (21) And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

2 John 1:5-6 (5) And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another. (6) And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

Revelations 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

ie. the most important thing that Jesus taught was "do unto others", which wasn't original, but it seems that way too many "christians" don't seem to acknowledge this with all the rubbish they have on their online pages and profiles.... like below, the first christian on twitter, the VERY first i could find when i had the idea to see how much flash and how little substance would be displayed by a christian...

i believe the problem with some christians is that "do unto others" is too boring for some, or perhaps it's too "gay" for them? unmanly? too nice even?

I'm guessing that merely praising Jesus is a rush.

a life *affirmation* that you can say to feel better instantly!

Because, actually doing something doesn't give the believer an instant "fix" or "high" or "rush", because "do unto others" actually requires that you actually do something, and the timing of that something, is going to happen at an indeterminate time in the future so you don't know when you'll get your fix from being good...

and that's a timing the junkie just can't handle

the christjunky needs his fix *NOW*, NOW NOW NOW, hence all the superfluous praise sustains the HIGH, which ends up being the only thing they do, thus the whole useful point of christanity in it's central and highest theme of "do unto others", falls to the way side ...

Check out the idolatry, assumptions, judge-mentality, festering hate, impracticality and most importantly, the SELFISHNESS of this particular "christian"....

I love christians, nothing makes me happier than when am at church and God is moving. i love non christians too-i was one.

do you think you love homosexuals more than i? why wont you warn them that they are in danger then?

He is the Prince of peace, NOT THE UN.

Jesus came to save us, while we were stil sinners, he is the Way, the Truth and the Life, he is the Ladder that Jacob saw, he is the Prince.

He who spoke the world into being, He made the angels, he made the earth and every creature in them.

He who sits upon the circle of the Earth, the Almighty God, who hangs the earth upon nothing, He who stretches the Universe on one hand.

Jesus is the son of David, the Lord of David, the Groom.

Jesus is the Lamb of God, the Word of God, and the Word was God, the Lamb who takes away the sins of the world, the Lion of Judah.

I cant explain who he is, He is my Lord and my Saviour, my Messiah, my King, my High Priest, my Defender, my Protector, my Creator.

The word of God, the Alpha and the Omega, he who walks among the golden lamp stands, the First and the Last

the deciples asked Jesus, 'show us the Father(God)'. His answer was 'I have been with you all this time..'

Jesus is the Lord of Glory, the King of kings, the Mighty God, the Great I AM, The Lord of lords, the Lord of hosts.

Jesus called himself the Son of man, the Son of God. The prophets called him the Messiah.

I think us humans cant define who is man and who aint, why would we doubt the one who made human beings. He can define us.

Jesus said, "before Abraham I am", he created Abraham, he created Moses, he created Adam, he created you and me for his pleasure.

Everything was made by him and for him. Jesus the Creator

Can you say IDOLATRY?

it's one thing to follow some religious figure, but this one person in the space of a few hours twittered all of these comments, but not once has he actually said what Jesus' message was about... not once did he actually show compassion and understanding, in fact, showed the opposite with his attitude towards gays with his "why won't you warn them" speak, which I can only assume to mean as "why don't you warn them that they are going to hell" ??

especially when this same fellow went on to say the next day...

(Homosexuals/lesbians) are filled with murder. FILLED: Its inside them waiting 2 happen. school/college shootings. THEY HAVE NO CONSCIENCE

see what idolatry does? it makes you holier than thou... sadly, the idolater does not realise they commit idolatry.

to this person i would say that the name "Jesus" means nothing, if all you do is praise his name, it means *nothing* to just say this praise, this isn't spreading *the* word, you're spreading a bunch of *words*... petty and pretty phrases to make people feel warm and fuzzy is all that you have got

Is it because you are afraid of the enormity of the universe and how insignificant you would be if you didn't have a special connection with the creator of the universe?

All the while claiming moral superiority over people who don't believe the same thing that you believe in, and that non-believers will suffer in hell for all eternity for simply not believing?

Can you say SELFISHNESS?

You don't know shit about the after life, nobody does, but you assume you do with this "god" answer, but by thinking this, you've completely bypassed the teachings of this Jesus you supposedly have learnt your morals from, and just because you say "Praise Jesus" you are bathed in the glory that is Christ, all the while you have not once displayed the true compassion for someone that your Christ allegedly displayed!!

and ya know, being selfish isn't a characteristic of doing unto others as you would have them do unto you, in fact, it's quite the opposite to put yourself and your assumptions that *you* just happen to be worshipping the *correct* god before the opinion of everyone else.

How do you know your god is god? How do you know your Jesus is Jesus? you do not, so the safest thing to do, if you *must* believe, is to actually follow the teachings and not brag that you are the one who is going to heaven, while everyone else is bound for hell...

A truly compassionate person would respect every person's beliefs, and being a curious human being and all, that most of us supposedly are, we would ask them all about their religion, and you know, if they felt like talking about something else, that should be cool with you too, but the fact is, you'll probably learn something if you actually ask questions and not be offended if those same questions are asked of your religion, or lack thereof

All in all, "do unto others" is pretty fucking simple, seems a shame to let it get lost in a book that many people say they are following, but clearly they are not...

i sometimes wonder if too many people saw that Ten Commandments movie and that's all they thought was needed to know about christianity....

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