Friday, 5 February 2010

non-believer tolerance of believers? TAKE 2 (religiorant)

it takes tooooo long to re-edit these to try and cut out topics i've touched upon before ... i also have to remind myself that these blogs are for my entertainment - if somebody else is entertained or educated, that's a bonus ... so at this point, it's most likely I am repeating some bullshit...

mostly written, 7th Dec 2009...... mostly...

ok... take 2...... do non-believers need to be more tolerant of the religious?

let's do this logically so the religious don't understand my reasoning...

i *must* have evidence to support what i'm hearing / reading / seeing / feeling, as well as that, what I'm taking in has to make sense, eg. the theory/premise/whatever has to make sense, and if it doesn't make sense, i just consider it an unknown.. an "I'll figure that out later" sort of approach...

some people can't do that, instead they say to me, "god did it" ... is it because they don't understand how i can be so flippant about reality, that when there is an unknown, I shrug my shoulders and move on?

but that's *why* i regard myself a non-believer. I don't *need* to believe in anything. I don't need to believe the universe is held together by god or the boson particle or was somehow created out of nothing by magic or the universe somehow made itself. I just don't *need* to know.

Look. You've got it all wrong. You don't need to follow me. You don't need to follow anybody! You've got to think for yourselves. You're all individuals! .... You're all different! .... You've all got to work it out for yourselves!--[Monty Python "Life of Brian" - Brian speaks to the crowd camped outside his window]

Now while I won't deny the extremely remotest inkling of a chance of there being an actual god but what I will deny outright is that *NO* god described by any religion, is "the" god...

god is god - there is no such thing as the 'christian' god, the 'vampire' god, the science god ra ra Ra the Egyptian sun god ra ra ra - god has no religion .. attach any adjective to god and you are speculating, you are in fact adding to that god, which at least in christianity, this guy called John said followers of Jesus are to not add anything extra to the bible ... so any assumption about the christian god, sees you worshipping *another* god as you are adding shit to this perfect god which never changes.

if god wanted us to have a particular religion, it should not have been so cryptic about which one was *the* religion

and you know, if god has existed *forever*, then is it not extreme arrogance to say that god just happens to belong to *your* religion? god is perfect isn't it? perfect means that it doesn't change, right? so god doesn't need to change, because god is perfect, right? look up the definition of perfect, i bet it doesn't say "invisible sky daddy" as a definition, and I bet god wouldn't convert to your religion either.

before there was religion, there was god, and before god, there was us... and before us, there was the universe

the only 'real' god is the god in the brain of believer! ... the believer flatters them self if they think that their religion is the religion of god!!.. herro prease! - the only way god could follow your religion, is if you invented that god your self...

what happens if you change or leave religion?!? does god change religion with you? the arrogance!!

The sheer height of the arrogance in thinking god is of a particular religion is phenomenal... of fucking course the god of the believer would change religion with them, because it's *their* personal god in *their* imagination, it's *their* brain to do what *they* want as they please, so why not? So it's no surprise that god just happens to follow *their* religion, even when people change their fucking religion because god is their ego!!!

And to top it off, it's *their* fantasy, so why does my non-believer arse need to believe in something I can't believe in? Why should I tolerate being told once a week that I need to believe, because it's supposedly *the* truth?

religious idiot: You need to believe in Jesus!

plain old idiot: Oh I'm sorry there must be some mistake, I actually went up to your church offices in person and told you lot to fuck off and leave me alone, there's probably a memo in your email telling you to not harass me any more, you should check your inbox more often..

even if god *did* give Moses the Genesis story, it's a good bet that Moses didn't know what the frack god was telling him anyway - so how can this message from god have been preserved correctly? god made Adam out of the dirt? for all we know, god was trying to tell Moses that life formed from amino acids mixed in the dirt with some water .. aka, puddle of goo. but Moses' feeble mind could not grasp the whole abiogenesis + evolution process - and consequently - reduced it down to "god made Adam from the dirt"...

of course that's the implication isn't it: that religion you have, it is *the* religion of god, isn't it? and if it wasn't you would have thrown it away by now ... of course your "holy truth" is *the* sacred holy truth of truths... of course YOUR ancient text is the ONLY preferred holy scripture for this universe...

granted, this is an extreme take on the way of things, but it's the extreme believer that's the one making all the noise in the first place, so why should the non-believer tolerate all the arrogance? sure religion gives comfort in times of need to the meek masses who follow it. But this arrogance seems to be spilling over into the real world with real world consequences when religion tries to displace science and sensibility on the other 350 days in the year.

Homeopathy, anti-vaxxers, Intelligent Design, denouncing contraception, encouraging military strikes on the enemies of Israel ... would these things be out of place in the dark ages? i don't think so - the bible belt is escaping the USA, and the Koran belt appears to be coming along just fine too strewn from Indonesia to the North of Africa.

There are horrible people who, instead of solving a problem, tangle it up and make it harder to solve for anyone who wants to deal with it. Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.--[Nietzsche]

people obsessed with their religions, don't seem to have time to be tolerant of people who aren't as equally obsessed about the same religion, do they? all that posturing about knowing the truth, only to be told by some infidel to stop being a fucking wanker?

what else would I say to them?


Meaning to say that, the religious do a bang up job of mocking themselves and their religion by not actually following it, i find that hilarious, so I have to find something funnier in their misinterpretation - and double misinterpretations would not be an inaccurate label to describe my tolerance mechanism for religion, so if I mock religion, it's because the religious have taught me to return the favour.

how can you not think yourself arrogant if you think you somehow know anything about god? let alone know what "god's" religion is? let alone what god wants? these religious types of people, mock their *own* god by not even following the very bullshit they incessantly want the non-believer to follow...

what? why do they want us to follow their lies? so we can pretend to be a self righteous religious pain in the arse as well? or is it just so they don't look quite so stupid being the only self righteous pain in the arse when Jesus announces that the rapture has been called off?

"Yeah sorry about the mix up folks. Yes, Paul didn't know what he was on about."
--Jesus (my own personal one)

and yes - I will look pretty stupid when/if it turns out that I am wrong, but guess what? unlike, fundamentalist religionists, WHEN and IF the time comes, I won't have a problem with admitting that I was wrong, because I can adapt to FACTS... and facts change, so regardless of there being a lord or not, I can adapt when and if I am wrong.

Can you do the same? Can christians adapt when it turns out that Allah is *the* god? Can you Muslims and Jews and Hindus and Buddhists and whatever other bullshit artists that are out there, can you adapt when it turns out that Jesus (or Zeus, or FSM etc) is actually *the* god?

well, could you?

religions are based on a story, one should not become emotionally attached to a story - so why should stories be tolerated as being "fact"? as "knowledge"? as "history"? only *stories* can get away with telling bullshit, that's what a story is, bullshit.. it's supposed to be harmless bullshit, and yes, not all the story bullshit is bad, but basing universal views on bullshit is not wise to say the least, especially when it turns out to be wrong. How many people do you know base their world views on fantasies? How many people become devastated when it turns out that their precious story - was just a story?

and even if god did reveal itself, who says i'm going to believe in it anyway? The only thing god has got going for it, is not having any proof of its existence. (((Imagine everyone's ideas of god being destroyed when the big guy rocks up... think of god from South Park)))


There are people who really do believe that the world is six thousand years old - i vaguely remember believing in that fantasy of god making the universe in six days when I was a kid, but then I started this thing called *school* and I had to decide which one was the bullshit - I remember that being a moment of disappointment, but it never occurred to me that some people would hold onto that frame of mind - did these people just stick their fingers in their ears the whole time they were at school?

but there are people who really do treat it as fact that people used to live for many hundreds of years in biblical times - they probably didn't pay attention in school, or didn't go at all - i had a conversation online once with a woman who insisted that we were dying younger and younger as time went by - i said "what? medicine is increasing our life spans!!" - but she said something like "in the old days people lived for hundreds of years" - i said "what? like who?" - she said, "Adam, Noah, Moses .." *facepalms*

these same people go on about "carbon dating" (like suddenly they are experts on it) and how it's only accurate to about 50,000 to 60,000 years ... are you dense? you admit that it's accurate enough to date things up to ten times older than how old you claim the earth's age to be, and yet when we show you an object that's been carbon dated to about 40,000 years old ... ahem .. what was it you were saying again?

better to remain silent and thought the fool, then it is to speak and remove all doubt--[Abraham Lincoln]

and there are people who really do think that the entire universe revolves around the earth every day, because that's how it looks to our eyes from our point of view, seeing the sun moving across the sky is the only proof needed to show that the earth is fixed and unmoving in space, apparently.... and the excuse for believing this? "gravity can't possibly work over that much distance" ...... "what? but what about gravity here on Earth, it works you know?" ...... "oh yes gravity works over short distances but not long distances" ..... *facepalms*

not only should this NOT be tolerated, this needs to be publicly ridiculed and mocked *repeatedly* - like Mr Garrison in South Park, when Officer Barbrady goes back to school, and he tries to read a sentence on the board and he gets it wrong and Mr Garrison and Mr Hat make fun of him..

Garrison: Now, Kyle, let's be supportive of our new student, give him the nurturing environment he needs to thrive. Now, I'm gonna write a sentence and I want us all to help Officer Barbrady read it. Give it a shot, Officer Barbrady.

Barbrady: Aaah. Oooooh. Ooooh.

Garrison: Bzzzt! Wroong! Try again, dumbass! Hahahahahahaha, hahahaha. Okay okay. Maybe we should try something a little easier. We can work our way up to the hard ones. Go ahead, Barbrady, don't be scared.

Barbrady: Aaah. Oooooh.

Garrison: Bzzzt drrrrr! Did you hear that, Mr. Hat?

Mr. Hat: I sure did, Mr. Garrison. What a retard!

people spread these stupid ideas because they are too lazy to understand or even try to understand how things are, so they go and spread their rumours and stories and misconceptions out of hate and fear.. hatred that they aren't smart enough, and fear because they want everyone else to be as dumb and stupid as they are... ever notice how people want to be in a crowd where they all believe or do the same thing? is that because they don't want to look quite as stupid when it turns out that the crowd is, it's not as humiliating when the person to either side of you is humiliated as well.

seriously think about that - why do people lash out and mock people just because they are different? my guess is it's because *they* want to be the dominant one, they don't want to be appearing weak and stupid around the chicky babes, so they ridicule the people that are different to make them go away, they pick on the weak to seem strong. Stick that together with an extreme belief system and you have the sort of person who would beat a homosexual with a metal pipe, shoot an abortion doctor, invade a country because Jesus fucking told him to, chop his hand off for sinning with it, poke her eye out for seeing evil, kill her children before they sin thus making sure they go to heaven... ra ra ra ra ... these are all actual things people have done in the name of their fears.

the only effective mechanism at times is ridiculing them. You can give them all the proof in the solar system that we're actually moving through space, but it's all tooooo complicated and has too much of that elitist sciency stuff for their brain, therefore, it's ignored. it's a lot more effective to laugh at them and say "you're a bloody loooney!!" to someone who is blatantly being stupid than it is to explain how they are wrong.

it's a lot easier and a lot less time is wasted if they are just going to say "god did it" anyway..... why waste time explaining the science to the deliberately ignorant? if they really do want to understand, they will come around.

if you try to be tolerant and explain something, the religious take that as an affront, they take it as an *attack* on them, "don't you you use that that sciency science talk with me! I have god! I don't need no science" so by their holy god given right, they get to be all superior about being a dumbarse, because their god made the universe and his word is the word. what a load ...

and besides, everybody knows that Grease is the word, it's got groove, it's got meaning... god doesn't have groove, god doesn't have meaning either... if it does, I'm all ears, but it's been thirty years and no-one has given me a decent definition of god yet...


The only thing that *can* stay the same, is a story. Don't the religious get that? We are humans, we grow and expand and adapt, sure religions gave moral guidance when we needed it thousands of years ago, but it's time to grow up. And for those people who insist on needing the security blanket of god, the "story" needs to shift with it's readers, and not hold it's audience captive to some never dying lingering remnant of the dark ages ...

so sure - fine - have your beliefs - go roll around in a sewage overflow with them for all i care, but the moment you open your mouth and start talking bullshit - you open yourself to ridicule because your bullshit is now part of the real world.

if you deny that the big bang was what at least started this iteration of our universe in favour of your god by saying "pfft, big bang?!?! were you there to see it??" then hello, were you there to see your god make the universe [insert your creation myth age] years ago? ...

if you say that "life didn't form from a puddle of goo, were you there to see it happen?" ask your self the same question, were you there to see god breathe life into the dirt and make Adam ????? well, were you???

welllll... ??? were you??? the argument goes both ways, dipshit...

How dare these incessant believers appeal to the emotions of the people when they don't even ask them selves the same questions about their own fantasies??

another example, my favourite..

"The universe can't have come from nothing!"

which is in reference to the big bang supposedly just exploding out of nothing, which is not what happened, nothing, just doesn't explode, the problem here is that most people don't understand the science. but you know, instead of explaining the science, try explaining how they are wrong from *their* point of view... and the best thing about the religious and their arguments, is that nine times out of ten, you just switch the words around and make their misguided point of view, apply back at them

"The universe can't have come from nothing you say? but didn't your god make the universe out of nothing?"

and suddenly the argument has shifted focus away from the science, to the ridiculous notion of god did it with magic.

there should not be tolerance of stupidity and ignorance when it comes to science. Why?? There's nothing wrong with being wrong and there is no reason to not ask questions - BUT - If your arrogance gets in the way and you can't ask questions, then that's your problem in being closed minded, not mine... but if you start making up science to make a dollar, then it becomes everyone's problem, because some people are not intelligent enough to spot a scam.

*stupid* made-up science can cost people their lives, tolerance of this is not acceptable.

One day people are saying we didn't come from monkeys, the next day they very well could be saying vaccinations cause autism - tolerance of pseudo science *is* dangerous.


and why should idiocy be tolerated when people are dying thanks to stupidity?? To this day, the religious and their scruples still don't tolerate the sciences - case in point - remember that species of some animal that scientists found up in Asia that was previously thought to have been extinct for a million years, do you remember all the hoo-hah from the religious freaks who went about mocking this new discovery because it turned out that - SHOCK GASP - science was wrong?

Excuse me? but all these religious fruit cakes were saying things like "awwwww... science said this animal was EXTINCT!! they were WRONG! AGAIN!" it was like some victory for believers... that is fucked up and stupid attitudes like that demand to be mocked until that person is in tears for being such a fucking stupid cunt..

**NEWSFLASH** - science is SUPPOSED to change, science is HUMAN understanding of the universe, if it is wrong on occasion it is because WE HUMANS are wrong on occasion. This is a GIVEN FACT and IS expected by the scientist. That is why science has peer review, just to make sure the "science" can be repeated and that it wasn't a fluke and that Dr Science didn't make up the results.

Unlike the arrogance of faith, when science turns out to be wrong, it's an *advancement*, regardless.

Being wrong and right expands our knowledge of the universe. If the dark energy and dark matter theories turn out to be wrong, it obviously means that the explanation of the unseen mass in the universe is something else, so we keep looking. If combining protein XYZ-425 with protein UKN-387 doesn't yield whatever it is we were hoping for, we don't try it again. We write it down, XYZ-425 + UKN-387 == FAIL, and move on...

This is very much like the bible, where people read it so many times that eventually it says what they want it to say. That *is* how you believe, right? You *want* to believe, so you do, eventually.


If we came from monkeys then why aren't monkeys having human babies today?

This extreme stupidity should be stomped upon, from a great height, preferably with an asteroid because, just calling a person saying this rubbish, "retarded", that's just not good enough.. No way is that good enough, these people say these fucked up things because *they* think that *they* have the truth.

When I am not sure about something, I shut the fuck up or I say I don't know, or I prefix what I'm saying with "maybe" or "perhaps" or "it could be" blah blah blah lbah

I'm sorry, but an adult with full mental capacity should not be believing in imaginary men in the sky, we tolerate children and their imaginary friends but do we not expect them to grow out of it? So what is this continuing tolerance of religious fuckwits all about? it's fucking embarrassing.

*sigh* ... but if adults just happen to want to believe in a sky daddy anyway, then good for them, that's cute, but they need to keep this imaginary friend of theirs and everything attached to it, to themselves. It's not my imaginary friend, by the way. It's **your** imaginary friend.

And this perpetuated idea of a god watching you, scares kids, sometimes for decades well into adulthood, this is a fact. There was a whole decade of fearing god before I figured out it was a waste of time. Some people may even have developed inferiority complexes from fearing god. Some people get so deluded with their god delusions, they go and kill people in the name of love. Religious love that is. Love for god. Love for themselves to be able to enact justice as if they are god themselves is what they are really talking about.

The religious sometimes say that non-believers consider themselves to be god, well if that's true, then ... so what? that's exactly what the religious do with their god that they made up in their imaginations, at least the non-believer does not pretend that their god is a superior being, like the religious do in making out that a part of their ego is the supreme intelligence of the entire universe.


And while this religious taunting of the masses into being scared of things that don't exist might just scare a few people into *not* becoming the Hitler's and George Bush's of the world, however, it is far more likely that we are missing out on more of the *good* thinkers, sharing their *good* ideas, so much so that they would probably make the Hitler's and Bush's of this world "unnecessary" in the first place.

I think with the internet, people are going to see a massive wide range of ideas if they are willing to look past the end of their noses, and more people are going to contribute in good ways, and more people are going to put away their silly fears.. because with the internet, they can search and find their answers without having to ask somebody a stupid question, thereby avoiding the whole appearing to be inferior and stupid about their misconceptions.

or the opposite could happen, and they could find all the disinformation they need to sustain their idiocy .... which is not too far fetched an idea, the world could massively dumb down with all the disinformation out there on the internet.


What if the secret to stopping world hunger is in the head of some kid in the bible belt, but she's too scared to speak up because she's been told it's not her place to "think"?? or worse still, she was laughed at by some ignorant authority figure who didn't understand her idea or didn't give the idea a thought as it contradicted what "god" wanted?

These are the same people who hung or burnt people to death that they *thought* to be witches. This is the same thinking that started the Crusades, the Inquisitions. These are the same people that beat gays with metal pipes, the same people who blow up abortion clinics, who shoot abortion doctors, who run over their daughters because they had sex before being married, the same people who then pelt their neighbour's daughters to death because they committed adultery because their neighbours' daughters admitted that they were raped (which is adultery if you don't have four male Muslim witnesses to back up your story under Islamic Sha'ria law). These are the same people who then get away with murder when one of them makes a "mercy killing" to "atone" for the **shame** brought to the family by the daughter who was raped.

"Tolerance", did you say? nope, not seeing it. Religion of "peace" you say? I don't think that you understand what the word "peace" means....

And you know, I'm fed up with christians who insist on washing their hands of past and present christian atrocities, who then in the same breath, talk about alleged past "Atheist" atrocities.. so they don't want to talk about past christian fuckups but they are quite willing to talk about alleged atheist atrocities, and yet.. and YET

not once have I actually seen a statement that said, Mao, Stalin, Hitler, or any of those other "monsters" who were "allegedly" atheists, not ONCE have I read that these people declared themselves as atheists.. not even ONCE... It's implied that Mao was an atheist, but I've not read reliable and credible sources that stated as much... I mean where is his speech where he says "I do not believe in god therefore I will kill millions"? That's the proof that I want to see if you want to lay claim to atheists being massively murderous.

and you know, even if any of these monsters *were* actually atheists, just what aspect of being an atheist was it that actually inspired them to have millions die?

atheists believe in no particular doctrine exclusively. so just what aspect of atheism inspired all of these murders of tens of millions of people by these monsters in the past hundred years?

and, again, even if they were atheists, what do they have to do with atheists today? It's not like all non-believers descended as offspring of a three way between Mao, Hitler and Stalin? right? so where's the connection?

and where is this tolerance these people claim to have? accusing someone of being like Stalin/Hitler isn't very - tolerant.

if Stalin, was an atheist, then I've not read it ... so in fact .. What the FUCK does atheism have to do with communist deaths caused by Stalin? NOTHING.. it has NOTHING to do with it... I've not seen any documentation stating that any of these other alleged "atheists" declare themselves atheists either ... in fact... Stalin studied for the priesthood, was that an atheist priesthood was it? well?

Now on the other hand, unlike atheism which does not have a central banner to rally around, the christians have Jesus - the same Jesus that inspired the Crusades.. the same Jesus that told George Bush to invade Iraq.

Because in all seriousness, these people are mentally incapacitated children if they can say this shit and believe it, they are *stupid* - they are morons - and calling them retarded and dumb and stupid and morons and such and such, well, that just doesn't cut it. You are not insulting these people, you are telling them the truth.

Which might explain the whole attitude of "oh I know I'm stupid, that's why I have god, so I get to be better than you anyway, coz I gots god! so it doesn't matter if I'm a stupid moron.." ...


i bet god ... oh never mind


a child goes to put their hand on a hot plate. You stop them, but then they go and try again, you stop them again, you explain that the stove is hot, and that it will burn them. but then they try again, then you explain, that they could end up getting a really nasty sore that could give them a scar for life. then they try again, you smack them, they try again, you send them to their room, you punish them. But still the child tries to touch the hot stove. eventually the kid touches the stove when you aren't looking, he burns his hand, he screams, but still keeps touching the stove and melts his fucking hand off but still he touches the stove....

At what point do you smack this kid down so he can't get up to go and burn himself?

The monkey statement above - that's how fucking stupid these people are ... they would melt their hands off. they would pray over their dying children expecting god to make them better. they would buy a 350ml bottle of water for $200 and expect it to cure cancer.

and it's thinking like that, that makes people think we all came from one man and one woman, that the world is 6014 years old, that the earth is fixed in space and that the universe revolves around the earth every day, that *no* matter how much evidence is given, they still believe their lies.

Just because you have convinced yourself that your fantasy is real, it does not make it any more real to us living outside of your limited capacity brain, you know, out here in the real world, where reality takes precedence over fantasy.

Believing fantasies to be real is what ushered in the dark ages...

so when somebody thinks they are being cute saying we came from monkeys...

NO - this is not on - because if some other impressionable mind were to read/hear that and not see that this point of view was a heap of shit, that stupidity may then get perpetuated and when you get enough stupid people together in the same spot, the mob mentality takes over. can YOU say Hypatia? - say - HIGH-PAY-SHA

that one little statement - "we came from monkeys" - could flick a child's brain off the concept of imagining the sciences .. but that's OK - "you want fries with that?" is always an option... oh wait ... companies are now making automated machines to serve you your fries now...


people don't like science because it can be hard to understand .. that's fine .. let me make it easy for them, they can either learn a science, or they can not, but which gives you more job opportunities?

god will provide? what's that you say? god will do it!? sure, that's great... good stuff, you can raise a family and god will provide for you and when you can't make ends meet, you can proudly boast to all of us heathen scum that GOD DID IT!! that you're destitute and homeless because GOD DID IT!! when your kid dies from getting the flu be SURE to brag at the top of your lungs running down the street SCREAMING and holding the CORPSE of your child limp in your arms and SCREAM that GOD DID IT!! That GOD KILLED YOUR CHILD, be sure to say it *REALLY* loudly so that other people will hear this and jump on the god bandwagon so that they too can have themselves something to blame for their laziness as well as their stupidity ..

"god did it" encourages intellectual laziness - and when there are enough of those people - like i said above - the mob mentality takes over - and that is when human life becomes worthless...

if you don't believe that religion is dangerous, have a look at what the fundies have done in muslim counties... saying stupid things like "why are monkeys not evolving into humans today" is one of the very first steps to extremism .. but of course people think that it is cute, that it is harmless ... "oh look at the cute dumbarses who think monkeys give birth to human babies, that's cute, but what a fuck head..."

well, ok then, if it is harmless... then at what point does this harmlessness end? is it when a father kills his daughter for sleeping with her soon-to-be husband before they get married? will it be when your kids get killed by a suicide bomber outside an abortion clinic, that you didn't even *know* was an abortion clinic? have you seen the people in Africa burnt alive for being witches or for being gay? how about the African kids that have had their skulls hacked open by their parents with a machete to try and release the demons that caused the fucking crops to fail this year because the local "priest" has determined that their kid is evil, so the poor child *must* have caused the crops to fail.. so the parent *must* have at the child's skull with a machete to release the demons - and after that the kids get disowned and thrown in the street gutters... providing they don't die bleeding from their skulls, that is...

the dark ages are not over, not by a long shot...


being tolerant of stupid ideas, allows those stupid ideas to spread, and because people are encouraged to be lazy, they go with what is easy, and it's easy to spread stupid ideas.

People like stupid easy ideas that are simple and shiny. Like babies, you give them the most wonderful toy, and it's the cardboard box that gives them biggest enjoyment because the box is so much bigger than the little present you gave them.

No wonder it's such a struggle for science, the universe is so complicated, far more complicated than this god that supposedly made it.

Explanation of creation of life.

religious: god made us from the dirt and that's allllll there is to it

scientific: well i don't know how life was created but i'm sure it was a little bit more complicated than god making us from the dirt and breathing life into us.

which is a bigger explanation than "god did it" - i mean basically i said "god did not do it" - but even refuting the most basic idiotic religious premise takes more effort on the part of the non-believer to counter it.

and this is something that shouldn't have had to be explained in the first place, this should not be tolerated, don't these people go to school? Did they sit there saying "blasphemy!!!" when evolution was taught? did they go home sick in disgust? get a note from their parents so they could be excused?

"Dear Teacher: Please excuse Randy Billy Bob from biology class today, as evolution is a lie"--[Parent, in Christ]

These people that deny the sciences that insist on trying to make reality line up with the bible, have NO faith whatsoever.

If I had faith in something, I would have FAITH ... I wouldn't fucking PRETEND that reality does not line up with my fucking bible book story .. I WOULD HAVE FAITH ... someone says "evolution" - DO NOT CARE - I have faith - it doesn't matter how we came to be because I have FAITH ... *whatever* explanation anybody came up with, I would say "THAT'S COOL! But GOD STILL DID IT!"

I wouldn't try to use half a line out of the bible to try and *PROVE* that the earth was the centre of the universe and that the whole universe travelled around it every day - I WOULD HAVE FAITH!! - i wouldn't try to make my faith line up with the world as it wouldn't matter if the world was flat, curved, a ball, a fucking Rubik's cube - it just would NOT matter as I would have FAITH...

and this explains exactly why I don't have faith ... the universe is changing, faith is unchanging, at least it is *supposed* to be unchanging - faith does not expand - it does not change its parameters - if your faith changes - then whatever you had before - wasn't faith - and it's very likely that this new "faith" of yours is an utter joke as well

there is no in between point - you either have faith or you do NOT have faith, you may think you have faith, but if you have even the slightest doubt that your god did not actually exist and was not all the things you claimed it to be, then your straying from the flock would be noticed by your god and that god will hold you to it..

imagine someone, that supposedly had faith, but lapsed in their faith briefly...

"ah yes, back in 1970 you doubted my ability to be your saviour for a total of three seconds, the fact that you stood on a land mine and blew both your legs off is irrelevant, your faith still faded for those three seconds, so sorry, you *nearly* made it, but off to hell with you, better luck next time.. hahahah.. ohh, just kidding about the next time thing.."--[god]

my mind is not a sieve - it absorbs stuff - faith is a joke, it can not exist in my brain without it being ridiculed....

there are no limits to human idiocy so there should be no limits to stopping it either ... because is god gunna give you the means to feed your family? god gunna keep you warm when it's cold? is god gunna put a roof over your head???

no, god is not going to fucking do this for you, if you think god is going to help you, then good - let god help you - because that's what we want! We want people to voluntarily take themselves out of the gene pool, what we *truly* need on this planet is all the dumbarses to breed themselves out of existence .,..

that would be fucking awesome, the Darwin awards would be a global sensation.


and when you are out on the street dying of hunger - just remember to tell yourself ,, GOD DID IT .. when your body clogs up the storm drains, as it decomposes cell by rotting cell, we'll listen for the echoes in the drains that gooooooood.... diiiiiiid..... iiiiiiiiiit......

sure religion gives you a comfort in a time of need - but that's all it is good for - and that is *only* because a delusion is BETTER than reality at times, and really, you don't need it for the other 350 days in the year.

And did you know that you can have delusions to make yourself feel better with out all the baggage of religion with it?............

tad dah!!!

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